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Question by mynamehere: what is stronger phenozepam or clonazepam?
i am having trouble sleeping and withdrawls from a narcotic, need to sleep, anyone know enough about the drugs to give me details please?
Best answer:
Answer by Druggity
I believe you are referring to “Phenazepam” which is a benzodiazepine (also called “benzo”) psychoactive drug with diazepine’s sedative, hypnotic and sleep-inducing qualities. This drug has been known to cause amnesia, aggression & behavioral disinhibition (lack of social restraint). This benzo works by depressing the central nervous system. Average phenazepam dosages are 0.5 mg 2-3 times daily. The maximum daily dosage must not exceed 10 mg.
Be careful using Phenazepam as severe withdrawal symptoms may occur including restlessness, anxiety, insomnia and convulsions.
Clonazepam, also called Klonopin is another benzo with highly potent muscle relaxant, and anxiolytic properties. it is usualy only prescribed for the type of insomnia where you wake up too early but otherwise sleep well. It has a long half-life which can leed to next day effects.
My NON medical opinion would be that neither of these should be used for insomnia, but if you must, go for the Phenazepam, it will help you to fall asleep and stay asleep better.
Good luck with your withdrawals, if you need someone to talk to, get the number from http://www.stgregorycrt.com non religious, non 12 step, very helpful.
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Question by mynamehere: what is stronger phenozepam or clonazepam?
i am having trouble sleeping and withdrawls from a narcotic, need to sleep, anyone know enough about the drugs to give me details please?
Best answer:
Answer by Druggity
I believe you are referring to “Phenazepam” which is a benzodiazepine (also called “benzo”) psychoactive drug with diazepine’s sedative, hypnotic and sleep-inducing qualities. This drug has been known to cause amnesia, aggression & behavioral disinhibition (lack of social restraint). This benzo works by depressing the central nervous system. Average phenazepam dosages are 0.5 mg 2-3 times daily. The maximum daily dosage must not exceed 10 mg.
Be careful using Phenazepam as severe withdrawal symptoms may occur including restlessness, anxiety, insomnia and convulsions.
Clonazepam, also called Klonopin is another benzo with highly potent muscle relaxant, and anxiolytic properties. it is usualy only prescribed for the type of insomnia where you wake up too early but otherwise sleep well. It has a long half-life which can leed to next day effects.
My NON medical opinion would be that neither of these should be used for insomnia, but if you must, go for the Phenazepam, it will help you to fall asleep and stay asleep better.
Good luck with your withdrawals, if you need someone to talk to, get the number from http://www.stgregorycrt.com non religious, non 12 step, very helpful.
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Question by mynamehere: what is stronger phenozepam or clonazepam?
i am having trouble sleeping and withdrawls from a narcotic, need to sleep, anyone know enough about the drugs to give me details please?
Best answer:
Answer by Druggity
I believe you are referring to “Phenazepam” which is a benzodiazepine (also called “benzo”) psychoactive drug with diazepine’s sedative, hypnotic and sleep-inducing qualities. This drug has been known to cause amnesia, aggression & behavioral disinhibition (lack of social restraint). This benzo works by depressing the central nervous system. Average phenazepam dosages are 0.5 mg 2-3 times daily. The maximum daily dosage must not exceed 10 mg.
Be careful using Phenazepam as severe withdrawal symptoms may occur including restlessness, anxiety, insomnia and convulsions.
Clonazepam, also called Klonopin is another benzo with highly potent muscle relaxant, and anxiolytic properties. it is usualy only prescribed for the type of insomnia where you wake up too early but otherwise sleep well. It has a long half-life which can leed to next day effects.
My NON medical opinion would be that neither of these should be used for insomnia, but if you must, go for the Phenazepam, it will help you to fall asleep and stay asleep better.
Good luck with your withdrawals, if you need someone to talk to, get the number from http://www.stgregorycrt.com non religious, non 12 step, very helpful.
Add your own answer in the comments!
ALCOHOLISM & DRUG ADDICTION TREATMENT ALTERNATIVE
AA Alternative–Non 12 Step Recovery–Alcoholics Anonymous Alternative–Quit Drinking without AA–Stop Drinking–Alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous
| “Addiction is our ability to control fear in a way we perceive as most effective for a particular situation. To control this fear is the motivation and alcohol and drugs serve this purpose well.” |
“The Forgotten Five Steps”
Workbook/Audio Program!
Download Now!
An empowering & practical approach to addiction.
AA Alternative, Non 12 Step, Alternatives to AA
There are vast amounts of information out there on the subject of alcohol and drug addiction, and my goal is to keep it real. I’ve seen what can work and I know the potential each human has and can choose to use, if the desire is there and the right information and motivation is available.
I must emphasize that I believe in the value of each person, and like myself, each must come to terms with who they are, what they desire, and their own way of finding it. My purpose here is not to convince anyone of how right one way is or better than another, but to share what I have learned in the process and hope that it will encourage others to do the same.
I have often heard the question, “Why do I drink or drug?” Or, “Why can’t I stop using alcohol or drugs?” These questions, I believe, miss the mark. The more important question is the “what” question. “What do alcohol and drugs give me?” “What has life presented to me that I believe cannot be handled without my loyal six-pack or pipe?” “What would happen to me if I could not depend on using alcohol or drugs?”
The answer is simple and nothing new. Those who drink or drug will do anything to avoid fear. “What” they get is a temporary fix or way out. It is human nature to choose what we perceive will give us the most happiness at any given moment. Fear hinders this process.
Fear is often secondary to the disease concept in most recovery programs. I believe this gives people a “false hope” that if they obtain a mastery over this insidious disease they will obtain a life of happiness. However, they find out this is not the case when they are presented with a negative life experience and end up using alcohol or drugs again.
Why? Because they believe (perceive) the situation will be unmanageable if they do not run and hide in a bottle or pipe. The avoidance of fear is greater than resolving the conflict in a positive manner.
Addiction is our ability to control fear in a way we perceive as most effective for a particular situation. To control this fear is the motivation and alcohol and drugs serve this purpose well.
In the end, the person struggling with an addiction must come to realize that his/her individual worth is not because he/she is “sober” or “addicted” but because he/she is alive.
The addict will continue to use until he/she is convinced that they can successfully live life without the use of alcohol or drugs.
There Is A Way & You Have A Choice!
I must expand here for I do not believe the alcohol or drug user is inept or deficient in any way. They are not any different than the non-addicted person. Sure they may have a mess to clean up with family and friends, but their desire to avoid fear and obtain happiness is the same as anyone’s. Some overeat, some exercise too much, some close themselves off and become bitter, some work too much, some drink or use drugs, etc. The bottom line is balancing how we cope with our fear in life and still be able to function in a healthy way.
But how do we decide this balance? How do we determine what is healthy or unhealthy for each of us individually?
The question I often ask myself is “What statement do I want to give to the world?” This is individual and powerful for each individual. It cannot be taught to them or forced upon them with consequences and threats. Consequences and threats can be a motivation to change only if the person realizes their current choice of behavior does not match their inner desire and focus of who they want to be and choose for their life.
So the answer lies in our ability to realize who we are and who we want to be. But how?
I get this question a lot. So I decided to create a guide that will help you. In the ebook “The Forgotten Five-Steps” I explain a simple program that will allow you to do this. I also will give you online help and coaching. I believe it is important to invest in your life and obtain accountability. $35 is a small price compared to the thousands of dollars traditional rehabs and programs charge. The money is secondary to me, I’m looking for a commitment. Instead of going out and smoking or drinking this money, decide right now to invest in something that will give you the ability to define your life as you want it to be. I will send it to you free if you are short on money, but for most I would encourage you to purchase it.
You have probably been through the programs and know all the info. Forget all that and decide now that you want more, that you want hope.
“The Forgotten Five Steps”
Workbook/Audio Program!
An empowering & practical approach to addiction.
AA Alternative, Non 12 Step, Alternatives to AA
Contact me with any questions!
www.recoverforever.com
www.addictionalternative.net
www.newarkohiocounseling.com
AA Alternative, Non 12 Step Alternatives to AA
Newark Ohio Alcohol & Drug Counseling
AA Alternative–Non 12 Step Recovery–Alcoholics Anonymous Alternative–Quit Drinking without AA–Stop Drinking–Alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous
Individual drug and alcohol counseling for the Ohio Counties: Licking County Ohio – Knox County Ohio- Fairfield County – Perry County Ohio- Muskingum County – Coshocton County
ALCOHOLISM & DRUG ADDICTION TREATMENT ALTERNATIVE
AA Alternative–Non 12 Step Recovery–Alcoholics Anonymous Alternative–Quit Drinking without AA–Stop Drinking–Alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous
| “Addiction is our ability to control fear in a way we perceive as most effective for a particular situation. To control this fear is the motivation and alcohol and drugs serve this purpose well.” |
“The Forgotten Five Steps”
Workbook/Audio Program!
Download Now!
An empowering & practical approach to addiction.
AA Alternative, Non 12 Step, Alternatives to AA
There are vast amounts of information out there on the subject of alcohol and drug addiction, and my goal is to keep it real. I’ve seen what can work and I know the potential each human has and can choose to use, if the desire is there and the right information and motivation is available.
I must emphasize that I believe in the value of each person, and like myself, each must come to terms with who they are, what they desire, and their own way of finding it. My purpose here is not to convince anyone of how right one way is or better than another, but to share what I have learned in the process and hope that it will encourage others to do the same.
I have often heard the question, “Why do I drink or drug?” Or, “Why can’t I stop using alcohol or drugs?” These questions, I believe, miss the mark. The more important question is the “what” question. “What do alcohol and drugs give me?” “What has life presented to me that I believe cannot be handled without my loyal six-pack or pipe?” “What would happen to me if I could not depend on using alcohol or drugs?”
The answer is simple and nothing new. Those who drink or drug will do anything to avoid fear. “What” they get is a temporary fix or way out. It is human nature to choose what we perceive will give us the most happiness at any given moment. Fear hinders this process.
Fear is often secondary to the disease concept in most recovery programs. I believe this gives people a “false hope” that if they obtain a mastery over this insidious disease they will obtain a life of happiness. However, they find out this is not the case when they are presented with a negative life experience and end up using alcohol or drugs again.
Why? Because they believe (perceive) the situation will be unmanageable if they do not run and hide in a bottle or pipe. The avoidance of fear is greater than resolving the conflict in a positive manner.
Addiction is our ability to control fear in a way we perceive as most effective for a particular situation. To control this fear is the motivation and alcohol and drugs serve this purpose well.
In the end, the person struggling with an addiction must come to realize that his/her individual worth is not because he/she is “sober” or “addicted” but because he/she is alive.
The addict will continue to use until he/she is convinced that they can successfully live life without the use of alcohol or drugs.
There Is A Way & You Have A Choice!
I must expand here for I do not believe the alcohol or drug user is inept or deficient in any way. They are not any different than the non-addicted person. Sure they may have a mess to clean up with family and friends, but their desire to avoid fear and obtain happiness is the same as anyone’s. Some overeat, some exercise too much, some close themselves off and become bitter, some work too much, some drink or use drugs, etc. The bottom line is balancing how we cope with our fear in life and still be able to function in a healthy way.
But how do we decide this balance? How do we determine what is healthy or unhealthy for each of us individually?
The question I often ask myself is “What statement do I want to give to the world?” This is individual and powerful for each individual. It cannot be taught to them or forced upon them with consequences and threats. Consequences and threats can be a motivation to change only if the person realizes their current choice of behavior does not match their inner desire and focus of who they want to be and choose for their life.
So the answer lies in our ability to realize who we are and who we want to be. But how?
I get this question a lot. So I decided to create a guide that will help you. In the ebook “The Forgotten Five-Steps” I explain a simple program that will allow you to do this. I also will give you online help and coaching. I believe it is important to invest in your life and obtain accountability. $35 is a small price compared to the thousands of dollars traditional rehabs and programs charge. The money is secondary to me, I’m looking for a commitment. Instead of going out and smoking or drinking this money, decide right now to invest in something that will give you the ability to define your life as you want it to be. I will send it to you free if you are short on money, but for most I would encourage you to purchase it.
You have probably been through the programs and know all the info. Forget all that and decide now that you want more, that you want hope.
“The Forgotten Five Steps”
Workbook/Audio Program!
An empowering & practical approach to addiction.
AA Alternative, Non 12 Step, Alternatives to AA
Contact me with any questions!
www.recoverforever.com
www.addictionalternative.net
www.newarkohiocounseling.com
AA Alternative, Non 12 Step Alternatives to AA
Newark Ohio Alcohol & Drug Counseling
AA Alternative–Non 12 Step Recovery–Alcoholics Anonymous Alternative–Quit Drinking without AA–Stop Drinking–Alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous
Individual drug and alcohol counseling for the Ohio Counties: Licking County Ohio – Knox County Ohio- Fairfield County – Perry County Ohio- Muskingum County – Coshocton County
last week and a half.
I
can’t take anymore. I am tired of being run over
and made to look like
the
fool. How come he can’t see how bad he is hurting
me and humiliating me.
I
am to the point where I want to say I hate him.
I know I can’t though.
I
am at the breaking point now. I am a basketcase
turned upside down in
every direction. I give up. I am so tired of crying.
I want it to be over
now. One lie leads to another lie and there is no
trust anymore for any
situation. I am sorry but all my emotions are out
right now along with a
migraine that I have had all day. What does he do but decides he needs to
leave for a little while with all his excuses of
what he has to do. LIAR LIAR LIAR!!! He’s a drug head turning into a THUG all over again. All I
want to do is just screammmmmmm! I want out of
this situation and fast.
What would be my first step. I am on the verge of
a fast approaching
nervous breakdown.”
..From the mail bag
The “Forgotten Five-Steps” Workbook
An empowering approach to an old problem!
So how do you like being an enabler and codependent? It is unfortunate, but your desire to continue helping someone struggling with alcohol or drugs has put you in a new category of human existence.
Who would of ever known that somewhere deep down inside you there lingered a desire to be completely miserable? You must love misery because look at all the things you put up with being a friend or spouse to an alcohol or drug user! Why?
Because you are an enabler and enabling allows you to stay in a relationship because your fear of being alone is greater than the experience of your spouse’s addictive behavior. You depend on your spouse so much that you enable him/her to continue the addiction thereby making you a codependent. Once codependent, your life is no longer yours but becomes enmeshed with the addicts. You are just as sick as they are and will probably have to attend some sort of self-help meeting, or subject yourself to years of counseling in order to regain any resemblance of a normal life. Don’t believe me? Ask a professional or self-help group member.
But I will not tell you any of this! It is just not true. In fact it is the most destructive and misguided information out there. When did it become a sickness, disorder, or disease to love!
You have tried everything!
Learn from the success of others, now!
Just because you can’t just turn your back on someone with an addiction, does not make you sick! It makes you caring! We live in the “me” generation. Individuality is emphasized and anything or anyone who hinders your personal pursuits is considered to be obsolete and to be thrown to the curb. If someone with a genuine desire to help cannot just kick their addicted spouse to the curb, they are considered to be weak with a lack of healthy self-confidence. They are what most professionals call enablers and codependents.
Don’t believe it! Of all the people I have encountered who once struggled with an addiction, but don’t anymore, none of them said it was their spouse’s fault. “If only he/she did not enable me so much” or “if only he/she wasn’t a codependent, I could of stopped drinking sooner”, are two statements I have never heard. In fact it is the complete opposite. Those who have “recovered” value and honor the strength and understanding they received from their spouses and friends.
Now does this mean you become a doormat? Absolutely not. Below you may find some helpful information on what to do. But in no way think that the answer can be found anywhere but truly in your heart. What works for one, may not work for another. What one person wants and can put up with, another may not be able to. Determine how much you are willing to take and set the boundaries. Talk to your friend or spouse and make these boundaries clear.
Sticking to your guns can be very difficult at times, but you must separate “not hurting the person’s feelings” from being able to truly help the person.
Never base your decision or boundaries on what others will think! We have been brainwashed to believe that caring is wrong. It is not. What you need to do is determine for yourself what you want your life to be about.
You are not sick, and caring is not a disease. Everyone struggles with difficult times in their lives and often these difficult times are caused by the behavior of someone close to you. No matter what you may have been told, the addict does not continue using alcohol or drugs because of something you said or did. You are not codependent and you cannot enable him/her to continue drinking or using drugs.
Sure, without money or a home to live in the addict may have to re-evaluate his/her life. But most addicts I have talked to continue using anyways even with extreme threats and consequences.
Consequences and threats may facilitate a change, but true change occurs when the addict decides it is of value to do so. It is entirely the addict’s choice and choosing. Never blame yourself!
Realize there are two aspects of change and both these aspects depend on the person using alcohol or drugs, not you!
First, the alcohol or drug user must decide that they want to change. This sounds kind of obvious, but I have found that the question “do you want to stop drinking or using drugs?” is rarely asked in a real sense. It is presumed that the addict wants to better themselves or that they are “in denial” and labeled resistant.
I’ve heard educated people talk forever on the concept of denial. It is important to mention here because it is ridiculous.
Those who abuse alcohol or drugs know exactly what they are doing, and I must say are damn good at it. They can deceive and manipulate about anyone to get their next fix.
The point here is that there is no denial, only what the addict is choosing to value. It’s difficult, but we have to put it in perspective to see the individual where they are at and where they want to be. Again, it is not you; it is what the addict is choosing to place importance on.
So the alcohol or drug user has to want to change. If they tell you they don’t have a problem, when it is completely obvious to anyone that they do, they are simply stating, “I’m not stopping”.
Second, is the alcohol or drug user has to think they can change. This can be more hairy because it takes into account the addicts perception of his/her personal life circumstances. In other words, the alcohol or drug user has to believe their life will be improved by stopping their addictive behavior.
I have to add that the model which is currently functioning in the treatment industry (disease model AA) doesn’t do a whole lot for encouraging hope. There are too many variables that can get in the way (spirituality, character defects, surrendering of will) that have more to do with ones practice of life than not drinking or drugging. How can I really change anyways if I have to be dependant on meetings, and not to mention the disease that can re-occur at any moment no matter how many spiritual awakenings I have experienced.
The following information is from a pamphlet, which is given to all patients at a leading addiction treatment center. You will probably agree that it is quite depressing and feeds into the self-fulfilling prophecy of helplessness! ….”Since the drinking of alcoholics is not a matter of choice but the symptoms of a disease, there is no use in appealing to goodwill or exhorting them to use willpower. That is like telling a tubercular patient not to cough…Alcoholics do not choose to get drunk; they get drunk in spite of intending not to. They are not morally depraved; they are sick” James Royce, SJ, Clinical Handbook of Pastoral Counseling.
The pamphlet goes on to include… “Under the influence of the drug, the addicted person’s denial is so powerful that he or she may just resist even more…You are dealing with an insidious, progressive disease that has to be approached systematically…. You need to see the drug-affected actions as part of the sickness and your loved one as a sick person.”
Now those of you familiar with treatment programs are probably not new to this line of thinking. Where is the hope? Where is a solution? Why not continue to use drugs or alcohol if this is all there is to look forward to?
A more disturbing part explains that in helping someone with his or her drug or alcohol problem a loved one must be careful for… “If you were to lose your ability to love, you would feed the addict more reasons to use drugs or alcohol…Addiction is a family problem.” Does a tubercular patient infect his family with a disease? Does his disease depend on the love from family and friends?
The importance here is that if the person using alcohol or drugs sees no hope in abstinence improving life circumstances, no change will occur.
It is not the family’s fault or lack of love, but rather the addict’s belief that they simply cannot live or cope with life without alcohol or drugs. If the addict holds this belief, they will not see any life benefits in stopping their addiction.
1)They must decide they want to change.
–Focus on the positives of the person struggling with alcohol or drugs. Why? Because they already know their life is a mess. What they don’t know is if they have the ability to climb out of this mess.
-Low self-esteem is an issue here. Self-esteem may be confused with sobriety. One does not regain an instant positive self-image simply by becoming sober.
Self-esteem is often associated with particular actions. A belief occurs that if I do such and such then I am a good person and I will remain sober. Instead of emphasizing that personal worth is present when one believes it is.
2) They must believe they can change and that changing will improve life circumstances.
– Proper support and peer groups must be present here. Remember we all rise or fall to the expectation of our peers.
Family and friends of those who use alcohol or drugs may have a hard time determining exactly what can be done. Talking with others who have been through the process can help, but I would encourage seeking out those with diverse views and experience. There is no “one way” to deal with someone who suffers with alcohol and drug use. Determine what you want your life to be about, set goals and boundaries, and realize that you do not control the behavior and choices of the addicted person. Follow your instincts and heart. And remember, you are not sick because you care!
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