Posts Tagged ‘higher power’
Question by Diver Down: Would an atheist drug addict have issues with the NA or AA 12 step program?
part of the program to recovery is believing that a “higher power” will help you. But what if you don’t believe? and you want “recovery”?
One thing that is frowned upon in these programs is referring to a “God”, the word is just Higher Power, it is open to the individual to interpet. They didn’t pray either, we all just merely admitted that we had issues that we wanted resolved. Their is no religion in the program, if it is handle by the 12 step “book”.
Has anyone who answered ever been to a meeting?
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Answer by Julien
We’re scientifically minded people. I doubt we’d ever become slaves to Alcohol or drugs. At least, no Atheist I’ve ever known would.
But instead of a higher-power, we’d have to look to the best in ourselves.
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Question by irv37: does dallas metrocare help with alcoholics?
i need to know if they will see someone that needs help really bad with his drinking
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Answer by Adrian Kimberly
I’m betting your friend DOESN’T really “need help” with his drinking. Most alcoholics are adverse to sharing their beverages. And I doubt he or she needs medical care to combat alcoholism, as it is not a “medical problem.” What the alcoholic needs is to stop drinking. That’s the ONLY thing that works or helps.
Alcoholic Anonymous (AA) is a fine organization, especially for those who, for one reason or another, insist on practicing monotheistic religions. For many people, there must be a “higher power” to help unload problems on and to whom to seek help. (There are non-religious AA meetings, but they’re a bit harder to find.) AND AA IS A FREE SERVICE!
IN ANY EVENT, an alcoholic will not be helped or even seek help until he or she is willing to admit to having a drinking problem and WANT to be helped. It’s not something you can wish upon someone else, unfortunately.
I wish your friend well. My first spouse (of 18 years) died at 41 of liver-related problems from a life-time of drinking beer. Nothing I could do helped. It was beyond sad. I miss him still.
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Question by Lady Morgana: Alcoholics: “…turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understand HER…” ????
If you had the chance to vote on whether there should be an ADDENDUM to the Big Book, stating that it is ACCEPTABLE to Alcoholics Anonymous to for meetings to offer the Twelve Steps using feminine pronouns, would you vote yes or no?
If no, why?
If yes? why?
Remember, this would not CHANGE the words that are already in the Big Book, it would ADD this as an acceptable alternative.
to Saint of Sorts: you say the gender of the pronoun doesn’t matter. With all due respect, please SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! It matters a lot to me, and to many millions of women. You are a man, of course it doesn’t matter to you! Your gender is the one they are using to the EXCLUSION OF MINE!
to all: the Higher Power is NOT undefined. It is referred to in the preamble to meetings as “He” and it is THAT which needs changing. My Higher Power is NOT male. I don’t say another’s can’t be male, but they can’t exclude mine. It should be either be He AND She, or neither.
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Answer by Captain Atheism
It’s already acceptable.
Your god could be the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for all they care.
They just want you to turn yourself over to a power greater than yourself.
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Question by Henry S: How come questions about sobriety only get 12-step answers, never SMART Recovery or CRAFT?
CRAFT (Community Reinforcement Approach Family Training) as described in Meyers and Wolfe’s book One Sober: Alternatives to nagging, pleading and threatening – from Hazelden Press! – describes a non-confrontational approach to helping others get sober that works. In research it did 6 X better than Alannon (which doesn’t actually aim to help but rather helps people let go) and 2X better than the Johnson Institute “intervention” (which makes people angry and feel they’ve been attacked). Also, SMART (Self-Management And Recovery Training) at www.smartrecovery.org offers a similar science-based and secular approach that is much more appealing to folks who don’t beleive in a Higher Power who will fix it if properly prayed to and appeased, and SMART Recovery is based on approachs proven to work. So why are all the answers to such questions always AA, 12-step, anonymous group oriented?
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Answer by A MOMMA
BECAUSE THE OTHERS AREN’T VERY WELL KNOWN OF. I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SMART OR CRAFT. I GUESS PEOPLE JUST STICK WITH WHAT THEY KNOW
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Question by Lady Morgana: How many “alcoholics” out there have tried Rational Recovery instead of AA?
What is your opinion about it?
Information about it: Rational Recovery isn’t really new, but it is newer than Aa. You can google the name and it goes straight to their web site, whihc has a lot of great information abou tit. I read the book. It is GREAT for me, as an AA member who got fed up with all the religion in it.
Rational Recovery is almost the opposite of AA, and the book is q
sorry about the blip…
Rational Recpvery is fairly critical of AA. The book is a must read if you want to be cured, yes cured, of your addition, and not be called an alcoholic anymore. You will never drink or use again, and the responsibility lies with you, not some Higher Power. You recognize your addicive voice, and you take charge of it.
I really lie this program and recommend it to all. I ave been in AA for 3 years, have been sober for those 3 years, and now I intend on never drinking again in my life, looking at my whole life without fear. I am eager to find out the opinions of others.
sorry about the typos, I type too fast sometimes
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Answer by Star Struck
you know…
I have been through the whole AA bit back when I was in college, and I just don’t know about it…. it really kind of forces you to see it their way, or the high way….
so…
I would like to give that rational recovery a go and read up more on it. Sounds like it has a good basis to it..
of course, whatever works for someone is the one they should use. Whatever works is good….
but AA didn’t really do it for me.
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Question by Sunshine: Does anyone know about “Rational Recovery?” Has it worked for anyone you know?
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Answer by NothingToLose
If you are referring to the program created by Jack Trimpey, which refers to AVRT or the “addictive voice”, then yes I know about it and it works. I highly recommend it.
I am a spiritual person, I believe in God and the “higher power” BUT when it comes to addiction, it is terribly important to understand that our brains and minds function on so many complicated levels – if you stop to think about what an addiction is (to drugs, pills, alcohol, nicotine), then the process described by the Rational Recovery method makes perfect sense.
It’s easy to read all of the negative “press” that this guy has received and believe it, but the bottom line is – do you (or whoever the addicted person is) want to continue to give up all control over your life?
It is not for the faint-hearted or weak willed – if you embark on this process, YOU will be accountable to YOURSELF – for some people that is the scariest part of the process.
Hope that answers your question. It works, but YOU HAVE TO WORK TOO. Just like anything else.
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